Cold Steel
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Take My Silver and My Gold..
by snugglebunny inno, these are not new lyrics.
they are the original lyrics as to be found in the 1950 songbook: "songs to jehovah's praise".
the song is simply called "dedication".. the words may have been altered in recent years, but the "new" words are simply the old words being re-hashed.. we can't make a meal of this as some are doing.. just saying, that's all..
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Why cant Judicial Committees be taped?
by HereIgo ini have never understood this.
was it because of legal reasons?
i cant think of any other reason why it wouldn't be allowed, but i know the elders ask you repeatedly that you are not taping.
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Cold Steel
Why can't Judicial Committees be taped?
They can.
But please..if you do, don't post a video of the ceiling or a crooked frame of a chair and the floor. Try to get at at least one of them in the frame.
You might also take in a small tape recorder. When they ask you if you're taping it, pull it out and say, "I'd like to if it's okay with you." That way you won't have to lie when they say no and they'll stop looking for the camera. You might also ask if they're recording it. Oh, and don't ask if they mind if you smoke. (It'll be a real short meeting.)
Also, DO NOT ask them how they know Jehovah picked the WTS in 1919.
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Taking the Bible Lessons And Going To a KH For First Time
by Cold Steel ini've taken the bible lessons but have never attended a kingdom hall.
i was curious as to what point they begin to tighten the screws of control?
let's say you're a baptist.
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Perry » What the Watchtower does to members is unlike anything in the NT church, because the WT only applies God's Grace to the leaders. This sets up the two-class system where them and ONLY them are needed for your salvation.
The faithful and discreet slave used to be the 144,000 anointed, self-appointed class. Then the leaders hijacked the term and cut everyone else off at the knees. Oh, the others will still be resurrected as spirits who can manufacture physical bodies at will (I suppose while visiting their family, friends and cats on Paradise Earth.) They also apply grace to all those who made up the ancient saints. All of them make it.
So why do they knock on our doors? So we can survive an Armageddon they don't understand and be trapped in a garden for untold trillions of years eating vegetables, grains and fruits. We get to go to the mountains, to the beaches, hold meetings and have family reunions for more millions of years than there are grains on the shore. Each day will be like the one before and the one after. If I make it is go nuts! I'll make some cool looking uniforms, get a bunch of people together and start a war! I'll conquer the next valley, then the next and do on. Meanwhile, cows will begin disappearing at night.
I've got it all figured out.
Wanna be a General? How are you with a grill?
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Dumbest elder
by Chook ini went to field service group once and the young elder taking the group was wearing a hat and said the prayer with a hat on.
i informed him later that you are not meant to have head covering, he said he was unaware of such things.
now that the calibre of recruiting on the part of co..
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Chook » But the hat thing is a joke most religion wear some type of head covering Pope, skullcap by Muslims, Kippah by Judaism and we have the turbans. It interesting that we here in the western culture considered it rude or disrespectful for a man to wear a hat inside a church.
When the hat is part of a religious tradition or part of religious vestments (such as the temple garments worn by Aaron and the Levitical priests it may be worn or removed as instructed by the dictates of their worship. When going into a synagogue, it's customary to wear a kippah, or yamaka. (There's usually a container of them for guests, which are to be returned before leaving.) The idea is that it's to remind the worshipper that there is always someone over you, watching and hearing you. I find it a nice touch. But Western tradition stipulates that if you're wearing an outdoor hat that you remove it indoors. This is especially true in the military.
Baseball hats and other deeply religious head coverings are apparently meant to be worn at all times and places with the former to be worn at all sacred places of worship such as shooting ranges, bars, bowling alleys, sportig events and theaters (that's thee-ā-ters, not thē-ă-turs).
Everything its place and in its season.
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Taking the Bible Lessons And Going To a KH For First Time
by Cold Steel ini've taken the bible lessons but have never attended a kingdom hall.
i was curious as to what point they begin to tighten the screws of control?
let's say you're a baptist.
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No, I don't actually want to attend just yet. But I'm just curious.
Years ago my grandparents lived right across the street from a Kingdom Hall. My grandfather, a Methodist, was a religious man but didn't have a car. During bad weather and such, he would just go to the Kingdom Hall instead. And he would go nearly every Wednesday. He'd bathe, dress up and shave, then he'd take his Bible and go to meetings. Sometimes he'd bring literature back with him and the next morning over breakfast, he'd get his glasses and his Bible and go over it.
He did NOT buy into the sleep death doctrine at all, but he apparently felt he got something out of it. I was too young to understand anything anything about it. I just figured it was another church. I also didn't know what Armageddon was, but I knew it was bad and that if you were good you had nothing to fear. To me it was a huge word that ran across the whole page of some of the stuff he brought home with him.
I don't know if they offer Bible courses anymore -- they don't ask like they used to. But who knows? I used to go to other churches just to see what they were like, but stopped after visiting a Pentecostal church. Scared the hell outta me. I was one of the only people in my seat. Everyone else was rolling around and acting like people in that Walking Dead zombie show!
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Taking the Bible Lessons And Going To a KH For First Time
by Cold Steel ini've taken the bible lessons but have never attended a kingdom hall.
i was curious as to what point they begin to tighten the screws of control?
let's say you're a baptist.
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Pale.Emperor » But for all that... you'd think they'd at least find a sword or an arrow head or a Nephite/Lamanite pot or something. All those people and battles?
You're absolutely correct.
Book of Mormon archeology is one of the most fascinating aspects of the Book of Mormon and there's considerable evidence that the events described therein occurred in Mesoamerica, not the northern part of what is now the United States.
Although there's a very vocal LDS group that disagrees, the Book of Mormon appears to take place in a tropical setting. There's no mention of snow, crossing frozen rivers, casualties from exposure. It also appears in an area of volcanic activity. In one case, poisonous serpents prevent travel through a narrow stop of land for five years. This would be impossible in a land where there was snow and ice. The Mexican people, however, have traditions of areas populated with such serpents. In one case, they directed immigrants into an afflicted area hoping they would perish (so as not to pose a future threat to them). Unfortunately for the existing population, the immigrants were snake eaters, and they soon cleaned the area of the fire snakes and they thrived and eventually conquered them.
You can read more about some of the research being done at http://www.bmaf.org/articles_list.
LisaRose » The book of Mormon is a joke, full of anachronisms and errors. Large portions of it were copied from the King James Bible. In fact, errors that existed in the King James bible of the time were replicated by Joseph Smith, which would be expected if he just made the whole thing up, but hard to explain if it was actually dictated by God.
Sounds like you've been reading anti-Mormon stuff. The people who write it are completely unqualified to evaluate the Book of Mormon because they're not archeologists, anthroplogists, geologists or historians. And when people say the types of things you say, it's clear the criticisms are not theirs, but the published views of others.
So what kind of anachronisms and errors?
I frankly don't know why the Lord used the King James translation, though I have some personal theories. The bottom line is that it's a translation, and Joseph Smith didn't use conventional means of translation. The only thing we have to answer is, is it a correct translation? Yes, if it was translated by the gift and power of God. Given the translation process, it would have been difficult to do a word for word copy and, indeed, parts of the Isaiah passages quoted by Nephi bear more of a resemblance to the Septuagint in critical places. The Book of Mormon also employs complex chiasms, an ancient style of writing found in both Hebrew and Mayan. It was virtually unknown in 1830.
For those who are interested in the evidences for the Book of Mormon, check these videos out.
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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat inwhile reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
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...we each decide what our purpose is in life.
I don't think we can determine that. We're here for what? Who determines why we're here collectively? From a theological standpoint, the JWs don't do a good job of explaining why God created man. The psalmist wrote that God made man a little lower than the elohim, or gods. Man is His crowning creation, even greater than the angels. But why did He do it? And what did He want man to accomplish that the angels couldn't? Why did He make both in His image? Indeed, why does God need a head, arms, feet, nose, mouth or hands? Yet we're told that He made man in His image, and that Jesus was in the "express image" of the Father. This means he looked exactly like the Father. So if Jesus looked human, the Father is the same in appearance.
It's also clear that if God knows all things from the beginning, He also knew that man would fall well before He created him. Perhaps it was His intention all along that man fall. That way, through the atonement, man would be elevated far beyond his expectations and far beyond the angels. In that case, man would have had a purpose that went beyond life in a crummy garden. (Being in Eden would have relegated us to nothing more than pets.)
Again, in the New Testament it states that when the elect see God, they "shall be like Him, for [they] shall see Him as He is." (1 John 3:2). Adam was nothing like God. He was a hollow imitation with no knowledge of good and evil. The only way for man to gain this knowledge was to choose it; God could not foist it upon him. Thus, man had to choose to fall.
But to the WTS, Adam died and got what he deserved. He had a chance to live forever in a garden for trillions of years and he passed it up for all of us.
Bastard!
So no, there's no discernible purpose for man unless you're of the anointed class. Then you get to roam the universe, visit other worlds and traverse time and space. But if you're one of the great crowd, you get to tend a garden and have family reunions for eternity. I'd rather go at Armageddon.
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If I Became a JW, Could I Have My Cat on Paradise Earth?
by Cold Steel inwould i?
i wouldn't mind if he slept through eternity (he sleeps most of the time anyway).
i'd just like to be able to move him around occasionally.
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They pass over the rainbow bridge into the elysian fields where they romp....barbaro the beautiful would have been triple crown winner is there as well.....
Well, the Rainbow Bridge leads to Valhalla, where the warriors await the great day of Ragnarök (Armageddon), whereas the Elysian Fields were in the Underworld and required the crossing of the River Styx, the black river, by ferry. Cats don't require the requisite coin under the tongue. They go free of charge!
Now about those photos....
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The Jewish Temple(s) In Egypt. (Circa 5th Century BCE)
by fulltimestudent inthe web address on the above sketch is misleading as the sketch (it seems) was included originally, in a article in a peer reviewed archaeological journal by a stephen rosenberg.. there is little doubt that the temple was genuine and it demonstrates that the ot stories about the role of egypt in the formation of judaism do not tell the truth about the complete relationship between israel and the egyptian empire.. we know that this temple on elephantine island was genuine.
some papyrus correspondence has survived .
there is also another (claimed) jewish temple that an archaelogical team explored last century, but the precise location has been lost.. more on the above temple tomorrow..
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You're fired!...Damage control in October broadcast
by ab.ortega inthis new broadcast features interviews with bethelites from south africa that were fired reassigned to the ministry field.
i almost feel sorry for these people who gave their all thinking they would be taken care of for who-knows how many years.
however they were let go in the blink of an eye.
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I almost feel sorry for these people who gave their all thinking they would be taken care of for who-knows how many years. However they were let go in the blink of an eye.
Yeah, but Armageddon is sooooo close!